Thought you might like to see the pics of a norman 22 that we rescued from being cut up and put in the skip. It had been completely submerged for two years but as you can see scrubbed up quite well! Unfortunately i don't seem to be able to find after interior pics. We used her for a couple of years and then upsized to a Norman 32.
A ridiculous amount of man hours went into the renovation but it was worth it to save her from the scrapheap!
The following from Brian about his Norman 22 and a previous boat!
"This is Tudor Rose, my surrogate Norman (a 1974 Freeman 23ft. I kept on the Thames until I sold her last Oct. - I'm the old white bearded one, the other is my brother Mike. Having this Freeman slowed down the Norman restoration by at least 3 years - I preferred cruising to building!!) but now I'm getting on with it.
The Freeman had the original Ford Watermota xflow (marinised Ford Escort mk 1 ) which was fine, although I did have a scary cruise when the petrol pump seal failed and in true car tradition, the tell-tale drain pumped neat petrol by the gallon into the bilges!! Luckily I'd fitted a bilge blower in the engine compartment a few weeks previous and rapidly switched it on to clear the fumes - if I hadn't, I don't think my son or I would be here to tell the tale.........
Lovely boats with nice wood - it was a real "gentleman's carriage" with near perfect handling characteristics. I still regret selling her but I just had to get this Norman finished!!
These are a combination of views after I'd got the Norman in the barn and stripped back to a bare hull. RyverWytch2 is as she is now - cleaned repaired and epoxy coated hull, with all external fixtures and fittings finished and on the trailer. Currently I'm working hard on the fit-out. I will do a detailed log and photos of the whole build when I get more time, but this is a start!!
"Brenda's Babe" is a Norman 25 belonging to Roy and Brenda of course !!
Looks like they enjoy the occasional tinny !!
"At the rear of the table is the radiator. Under the front seat is a 10 gallon tank which acts as a reservoir. I got the idea because i thought it criminal to eject all the waste heat into the canal when we really wanted it up the front end. There is an inline 12 volt pump which transfers hot water from the tank into the radiator at the flick of a switch. The downside of this system is that at this time of year the water is very cold and you would have to run the engine (Ford 1600XLD diesel) a couple of hours to warm the tank. We recently installed an Eberspacher hot air heater. This takes about 25 minutes to warm the entire boat to 22 centigrade. I used rainwater down pipe to duct the air. The only problem is that the thermostat is in the engine room so if I run the engine, my hot air heating packs up ! Anyone got a spare stat??"
Here we have James's Norman 18, "Mansell". I've yet to ask after the source of the name! These are before work commenced so we await the transformation !!
and here we have the latest pictures
This from Chris who seems to be suggesting we are all old gnarled veterans!!
Sorry It's taken so long for a picture. I know it's not the best but I hope to sail her in the next few weeks and take some nicer more detailed pictures both internally and externally. She's also coming out of the water for a week in April so I hope to take more pics as I am unsure of the condition of the hull.
The boat is moored at a marina on Lancaster canal and I paid £1,600 for her. As a beginner boater I found it almost impossible to get a mooring on the Lancaster canal and finding a boat for under £2,500 was a difficult task. I bought the boat off a pleasant elderly gentleman who lived near the Macclesfield canal near high lane. He said he liked the Lancaster as it had no Locks on the main line.
It was a impulse buy as he had a mooring at a marina and I thought well if I don't then I might never do it!
I wish I had taken pictures of her when I made the purchase as the boat was in a very sorry state. The cockpit was soaked through after months of rain from a 20 year old canopy and most of the wood throughout was rotten. She was completely covered in Algae and the cabin was wet from leaky windows.
The control box was the original white 2 lever box which meant you could change from forward to reverse whilst at full throttle (not good) The engine failed about 3 miles outside of Garstang when I took her out for only the 2nd time in May last year and we where stranded. Luckily some boaters on holiday towed us back to the marina and a bottle of wine was given to them for their kind nice spirited efforts.
Sadly I spent most of last years superb summer working on the boat and only managed a trip to Carnforth which was very picturesque as we passed Deep Cutting and the Lune Aqueduct. I have to say that I think this lovely boat was the best purchase I have made and at least I now know the inside and out of it.
Here's a list of work completed
new canopy provided by Coverit (Great Job!)
Engine service & new fuel tank by Martin Yates Marine (Again great job!!)
new engine box & cables
new helm seat
new floor supports & flooring both in cockpit and in cabin
new ropes & fenders
new interior cushions & curtains
new leisure battery
Re sealing of windows
and next week hopefully new rewiring for a small 4" tv & extra lighting
Total spent £1,300 approx.
Hope to see you boaters around this coming spring. I would like to know if I am one of the youngest Norman boat owners. I don't see many more 28 year olds enjoying this superb relaxing (?) and friendly past time.
This is Duncan's Norman 23 "Lady Jane Ruth". I like the look of the hard top cockpit. Yet another wise man who resides in the glorious white rose county !!
Look forward to seeing "Lamorna" after a wash !
All the months that I've been visiting the site whilst waiting to finalise the deal on Lamorna must have paid off 'cos, as a non-boaty person (till now), I actually recognised the model! And I've learnt things like anti-fouling and osmosis, etc etc!!
I foresee a flurry of activity next week, with buckets of water and T-Cut, and mops and buckets - well if there's water laying inside, I guess the hull doesn't leak! Then we need to get the cockpit covered to prevent more water getting in. This is going to be a (very!) long term project, so I need to introduce the other members of the family to the site so that they can get a bit more of an insight into what's going to be involved - I hope it doesn't put them off!
What a difference a week makes! A million and one buckets of water later, as the hose wouldn't reach, lots of frantic scrubbing and mopping and she's looking better already. We even unearthed the original canopy from underneath her, a bit the worse for wear and with one side panel missing, but better than nothing. Now the search is on for a trailer and we'll bring her home where we can work on her in more comfort and with all the tools to hand.
'Success!! We have acquired a trailer for 'Lamorna'. It's just as we wanted - not pretty, needs some TLC, but within our price range and sold to us by a very nice, genuine gentleman - in the dark, by torch/headlight and surrounded by startled rabbits!! It followed us home with no problems - a two hour drive and we arrived home after midnight, then had to manhandle it through the narrow gap into the garden. I hope the neighbours weren't watching. Now, before we can bring Lamorna home we need to 'pretty-up' our trailer and get everything in working order. The basics are there - length, weight limit, wheels! So, we have a project within a project!! Par for the course actually, in this household - but I'm sure it will be well worth the wait. Keep tuned for the next instalment, when we try to get Lamorna on the trailer . . . '
'Now we've widened the access into the garden, ready to bring Lamorna home, it's time to progress with the improvements to the trailer . . .'
Now this is a rare Norman 29. Only around 20 were ever built.
Andy says the boat is tired and needs TLC.
Looking at the pictures I suspect there may a few wish theirs was "tired" !!
And now "Twirgle" has been finished and sold, looks like new.
Oliver knows what pleases the webmaster!
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Pat and Mary are yet more residents of Sawley Marina. Hope to see them at the meet.
This is "Silver Lady"
Trevor registered "Dream On" almost at the beginning of this site and has found himself a digital camera and sent these impressive pictures.
"Twirgle" is a Norman 29 wide beam boat. Nor many were made and Andy picked this up in a bit of a sorry state.
Here's the progress.
When we first brought it I commented that I felt it was tired and needed some TLC, well I had the wrong wording it was not tired it was comatose! The more work I was doing the more work I seemed to find. Well now is the time for me to stop and enjoy the summer on it (another way of saying the money has run out!).
Jobs carried out so far:
Removed unsightly hand rails.
Scrubbed all exterior surfaces (several times)
Sort out badly installed electrics.
Started starboard engine, had not been started for five years! (Diesel problem)
Removed badly rotted roof and re-designed and manufactured and installed, a plywood canvas and gel coat roof..
Sorted out water system.
I'm sure there must be a lot of other jobs we have done, as we have been working on the boat solidly since March and there is still a lot more to do.
These from Luke in Ireland....
I have just purchased the boat and had to make a round trip of 400 miles to buy her. Always wanted a Norman 20 and just upgraded from a Shetland 535. She needs a lot of work so I will send some more pics later to allow you to see the work as it progresses. The Norman 20 makes an excellent sea boat too! I will use her for fishing as I did the original 'Fecker'. I am based in Dublin Ireland
This is Bill's 23 "Old Soapy"
"The Marina we are using is at Crooke, Standish Lower Ground Wigan. Its privately owned quiet and well maintained Marina, and close to a few good pubs on the Leeds and Liverpool canal. I have also included a picture of Old Soapy in a lock (the first lock we have ever used, I'm happy to say she never sustained any damage)."
Now here's Nigel's Norman 23 that had a refit by "Brooms of Brundall" no less!! They of the large gin palaces. Looks impressive.
I bought the boat a couple of weeks ago. It had been moored
at Martham and was called "Olivian". We changed the name to "Woodwose" as it is
now moored in Ludham and the Ludham Woodwose (Green Man) is a well known feature
font in St Catherine's Church in Ludham. The carving shows both a male and a (very rare) female woodwose.
The boat has been refurbished by Brooms. The inside looks great in new blue upholstery. I am not sure about the 6 bottle wine rack though. This will have to go. The boat has a fridge, a cooker with oven and pumped cold water. The canopy is a new one from Jeckells of Wroxham.
We used to have a Norman 20 (a few years ago) called Mandelbrot. It is still on the River Thurne near to Potter Heigham Bridge and is now called Ruislip after a period as "Reedsedge". We just seem to swap boats about on the Broads. They never go away.
The pictures show the boat inside and out and that's me driving. I have my own website, but no pictures of the boat on it yet (they will follow)
We spent our first night away on our boat and I am now convinced that the 6 bottle wine rack has got to go. It is really in the way.
I don't know how much the refit cost as it was done by the previous owner. He told me he had spent over £3000 on the boat, but this could have been sales talk. The fridge would cost about £500 of this. Exactly what was included in this price is not clear to me but you can guess it included antifouling and painting the deck as well as some new windows.
I will send more pictures as I get them. The interior of my boat looks totally different to other Mk3 Norman 23s and yet I am sure that it is factory fitted. It's got that Norman look.
Here are some photographs of my previous Norman, Mandelbrot. As you can see, it is a Norman 20 to which someone had added a fixed top in the past. I found this fixed top really useful. It had a Yamaha 25 outboard which was more than enough for cruising on The Broads. I sold the boat many years ago, but it still moored only about a mile away. It is now called Ruislip and the fixed top has gone.
The fixed top Side view
Mandelbrot on a misty morning on Horsey Mere
Mandelbrot in Norwich Mandelbrot in the snow
Crossing Breydon Water
View from the cabin. The grey bit of the
roof could be slid off and the
wooden panel to the left folded down into the cockpit to make an extra
The driving position under the fixed top
Here's a rarity, a Norman 17 belonging to Glenn and called "Tadpole"
Looks in great condition for the age.
"I am sure it is a Norman 17 even though a few things look different. The vents on the roof are round and unscrew, and as you can see there is a large square hatch at the back of the cabin. The steering controls are not original and I'm sure the engine isn't. I would certainly appreciate any information and pictures of the Norman 17 you can provide. Also my family and I are certain to attend some future meets."
(This last pic is courtesy of Graham Wheeldon from the Norman factory. It looks right does it not?)
Joanne has just bought this 23 with the doubtful name of "Knowmates". She's so chuffed she's already promoted herself to Captain!!
"I have just bought a 23 foot Norman. It's in good nick
Pleased as punch I am !"
Joanna (Captain. He he!)
Graeme and Carole's Norman 23, "Moonshine" appears resplendent with this clever colour scheme.
Here we have a guest, Bill bought this Dejon 13 a tad cheap!!
"I purchased my boat for £50 from the local tip and have refurbished it. I had no idea of the maker until I found one for sale on the net. most of the lip was missing so i removed it all and filled the gap as it is fibreglassed over inside and i an getting a rubber d section to replace it I fitted a steering rod to replace the rotten pulley system and hope to have it back in the water this summer 2004"
"I hope the only time to be pleased to see her out of the water, arriving to be put into the river Douglas. Will have more pic's shortly."
Dave & Glyn's "Pegasus" arriving the lazy way......(kidding!!)
Steve has owned his Norman 32 "Opal" for 17 1/2 years. Is that a record for the site?
"Opal" at Brummigan
"Opal" at Gas Street
"Opal" at Herts & Middlesex
Pictures 1 & 2 were take when I bought "Opal" on 10th May 1987.
The interior shots show what an unusual layout the front cabin has. No side table, galley on both sides, and quite a wide walkway with enough room to swing that cat. As you can see from the photo's, she also originally had a hard sliding wheelhouse roof which I replaced some years ago with a conventional canopy (made by Coverit) The wooden handrails on the cabin roofs are now S/Steel as are the pulpit and rear handrails. The louvre plastic round windows?? have been replaced with obscure glass. Some of the windows had been replaced with Perspex but they are all laminated glass now (I think).
I will feed you with more info and, I dare say, some silly stories (after 17+ years with the same boat I've probable got quite a few) in days/weeks to come.
A new cooker for "Opal" and a few more pictures.
Spotted by John at Bathpool near Taunton. The owners will get to know about the site!
"Princess Kimberley" "Lady Caroline"
According to what Graham Wheeldon told us, there was a time when 60% of all Normans built were exported especially to Norway, Denmark, Sweden and Holland.
Erik has sent these pics of his Conquest in Denmark.
Richard's gearbox in Norman 266
Questions in the forum!
John's Norman 23 "Gemini" is actually up for sale. Here are some interesting views.
"Compass Rose" rises!
We had 'Compass Rose' lifted out at the weekend ready for some over winter work. We cruised from Godmanchester to Pophams Eau at Nordelph Pumping Station, we actually had to go within a half a mile of where we wanted to be at Nordelph through Outwell and Upwell, Marmont Priory and back to Three Holes to get in the other end of Pophams Eau, it took us three days and the last mile was done being towed down the river with my truck as it was choked right up with weed. It took us two and a half hours to go that mile in the dark with one flashlight, two pill boxes, several trees, and a fair quantity of swearing. Although Ruth said she enjoyed the experience (she don't get out enough)
We lifted her out with a HIAB which a very good mate of mine owns, which was very handy as it only cost me a couple of bacon butties and a mug of tea.
Hopefully we will get her all painted up and her name sign written back on ready for relaunch back at Godmanchester in April 2006.
Jim (Of Jimbo fame) has provided these interior pictures of "La Roy ll". Just shows how you can establish your own style and identity as well as what can be done.
They do get about! this one spotted in Kristiansand, Southern Norway
Andrew wanted to demonstrate that Moonfleet are actually doing some work on "Sail A Vee"
Danny's 20 with some work to do!
Hello thought you may be interested to post a picture of two great British classics. I have restored them both almost completed the Norman 23 and almost ready to go to water ? the MG is 1967. and Norman 1972. Dave